HOT AIR VOTING RECORD:

An aspect of the community play HOT AIR was an interactive debate with characters from the play, that allowed the audience to probe their understanding of the dilemma of a proposed wind farm site on Dartmoor. The play drew out many issues to do with climate change and sought to ask questions rather than provide answers. The function of the debate was to involve the audience in the discussion, and to provide a framework for raising awareness of our thoughts and feelings about climate change and the challenges it places on our daily lives. The fictional character, Dominic, led the debate as a journalist consulting the local community. Dominic took a vote at the end of the discussion to gauge how the community felt about the wind farm. The vote was very interesting, but the main purpose was to open up the discussion about climate change and the environment.

The play was performed six times, and on the night the voting was often very close, and results were sometimes for and sometimes against, on one occasion the difference being only a vote or two. Below is the tally of the votes people wrote down on feedback forms. The “yes” vote won, but it is a close-run thing, particularly when abstentions are taken into account. At one performance, this very matter of why people chose to abstain was discussed amongst the audience. As can be seen from the comments below, reasons varied, but needing more information was a strong point. We hope that people have been sufficiently inspired to find out more...

YES: 70 votes          NO: 58 votes          ABSTAIN: 13 votes

 

COMMENTS FROM VOTERS:

Abstaining comments...

Comment Further Information required?

As cows are considered to be the main cause of pollution, why not use Bio Gas from dung fermentation to generate gas for generators. Combine this with smaller windmills on all the electrical pylons - no need for upsetting the habitat of ground species.

Ultimately confused.

Information on how effective compared to other sources.

Hydrogen Power.

The subject is so very complex, I need a lot more information.

Yes.

I think that wind turbines are ok, they look ok.

Asked wrong question. Are we been brainwashed with pseudo science, is not the sun getting hotter and what about global dimming possible caused by C02 increase. In Middle Ages they grew grapes as far north as York. In Roman Times world temps were warmer than they are now.

Not enough information on this complex issue to make a decision.

Too many many conflicting "technical" and scientific views - difficult to make a clear decision…!

Time will tell if these early schemes have a real value - in the meantime proceed with caution!

Would like to think about the issue further - are wind turbines any good? I NEARLY voted for them! Much to my surprise…

Are they efficient - then we on Dartmoor can / should do our bit.

 

No vote comments...

Wind farms are very inefficient. Money should be spent on wave and tidal power.

When the wind stops, you need to cut in power stations which have to be on standby - this is far more inefficient that oil/coal power stations that are 'on' all the time. Also, they have a life span of aproximately 20 years. One disintegrated last week in Denmark!

Wind turbines are so inefficient as energy producers that there is no way they can justify the environmental damage.

Large wind farms are (a) a visual abomination and (b) as a finger in the dyke. We will probably have to go for nuclear as an option.

Wind turbines are huge and too overpowering for Dartmoor- destroy the peace of uncivilisation there.

Why should we have them! Good idea but build them in Cornwall/Ireland/anywhere else.

The love of Dartmoor's views and the signifance they have to the life and livelihood (ie tourism) of Devon . Put them in Cornwall!

Also, not sure about the viability as a source of power.

Because I think that the case for the benefits of the wind farm was not made- I am not opposed to all wind farms, but this proposal needs more thought.

I think the preservation of beautiful landscapes (even man-made ones) has the edge over the need for renewable energy production. Also, we shouldn't be too hasty to find technological solutions- which sometimes in the long-term are not as good as they originally seemed.

Ineffective, eyesore, damage to wildlife. Other alternatives much more efficient.

Not enough scientific evidence. If turbines are erected they should be put in the sea.

Need to preserve life AND a good quality of life.

Wind power but not on Dartmoor. Offshore, wave power, nuclear. But global population explosion is a bigger issue.

Don't take away the beauty of Dartmoor! But don't whack a load of turbines in Cornwall.

Tidal power is more appropriate for Devon. Wind farms won't produce that much.

I live on Dartmoor and I think it would be a shame to take away its beauty.

I know of a small community which regret the decision to host one, resulting in adverse health effects (possibly) from the buzzing / vibrations. Also, there are as many other things we can be doing on a smaller scale to offset C02 production but with a large impact. Food waste in landfills contributing to massive methane gas production (hot air!!) and leachate pollution. Composting provides a product which can be returned to the Earth via a natural process and into something simple that everyone can do. Many landfills are now tapping into and extracting methane from landfills, but why not eliminate at the source. Great play, thoroughly enjoyed it!

Whilst I believe in climate change I don't believe in turbines!!

There are alternatives that make a bigger statement - wind on this scale achieves little whereas combined heat and power stations contribute more.

The health issue. The efficiency status. The disappointment of losing the view. Prefer other options of making power. Am in favour of being green though.

I think that the debate on where turbines should be sited is not (??)

My personal view.

Because of the rare butterflies.

The utter spoilation of an area of wild, desolate landscape by modern alien structures of huge proportions which produce little energy, when compared with the constant flow of tidal esturies which could be harnessed with low profile underwater turbine schemes.

Scientists say that the amount of energy and emissions used to build turbines is greater than their output during their usable life which is about 20 years.

Because I am not sure they are an effective method of energy creation.

Because we love Dartmoor and its natural beauty.

I think power should be generated small scale on a local level. Dartmoor has close knitted wealthy communities, if anyone has a voice that will be listened to it's you lot.

Community wind turbines maybe a solution - encouraging responsibility and direct links to where our energy is sourced. Small is beautiful.

The National Park has a duty to protect the landscape and heritage and to support sustainable development.

I strongly support wind energy but I feel the future should be with smaller local (hedgerow sized) turbines telegraph.

Efficiency / beauty of enviroment here.

A difficult choice - in the end opted for the preservation of the Dartmoor landscape. But agree that we do need to look at alternative sources of energy. Well done!

They have no place in the National Park. The real challenge is for individuals to reduce their own carbon footprint.

Not convinced by the case of wind farms beyond a futile gesture. "We have to do something!" - anything?

Manufacture, maintenance and wind turbines including transport etc means one starts with an energy deficit. Are they efficient. Also minerals and other resources used up to make them. Better sites than Dartmoor.

It's part of a much larger question - I believe Dartmoor as a National Park should protect the populations and farmed animals within.

Very primitive power generation. Green fascism.

I believe the technology is not proven. I think there are more effective solutions.

Turbines not reliable enough! Need to find a source that can offer all aspects required.

I do not think Dartmoor is the appropriate site for wind farms. They take up too much staff for too little energy. Try offshore farms instead!

I found the argument compelling that the benefits could not be outweighed by the destruction of place! But I do accept the premise and believe that all relevant actions should be taken, not just piecemeal interventions.

Love or hate them, the only viable way of producing power for forseeable future is atomic power. Wind farms are a monumental waste of money!!

As wind turbines generate so little power, their hideousness is not justifiable, especially in an area of outstanding beauty.

Because they didn't even have a good design, let alone even bother to do anything.

No!

Yes vote comments....

I'm all for harnessing wind/water power.

Struck by that possibility of change and potential nimbyism at time of imperative - certainly stimulates to research more as when it comes to turbines on the moor I voted yes but I don't really want them.

Wind power appears to be clean and environmentally friendly.

I feel that each area must make its contribution to solving the problem. There is no place for NIMBY-ism. I think that there is beauty in windfarms, just as there used to be beauty in windmills.

Because we MUST seek alternative sources of energy.

Vital to act now. Too much debate and it will be too late.

I like windfarms and think they are quite beautiful.

I think wind farms are a good idea. They have to be built somewhere a lot of people like the idea of them in their back yard. I would much prefer to live under wind turbines than next to a nuclear power station.

Well, we really don't care because it isn't going to affect us, but it probably will affect our grand kids.

Anything that helps to end the march towards disaster! Wind turbines are quite graceful. But I still need to be better informed really.

Because a solution is so critical we will all have to compromise our personal preferences.

Because wind farms are good ideas!

No - it was very informative! Well done!

Because all methods of power will be needed.

As things stand now, with our present knowledge it is worthwhile to be advanced.

I don't mind the look of a wind turbine; they wouldn't be all over Dartmoor and it is a good place (high up and lots of wind) to put them.

Can't abstain at this stage in the game. We need to take a stance and ACT NOW.

Because this is the way forward.

We have no choice. Alternative energy (as well as energy conservation) is vital.

I voted yes because renewable energy is the only way to go forward.

Because it is essential to start creating alternative energies NOW - Dartmoor is big enough to incorporate a wind farm. Also - they are not ugly - just a little noisy!

Because we have to invest in alternatives for future generations and all landscapes are continually changing.

Alternative renewable sources have to be developed to deal with C02. Dartmoor has always been a changing landscape. I personally don't find the turbines offensive.

Because we have a need for the energy - it is a good solution.

As we need a solution - wind turbines = energy.

There seemed to be a move toward community power generation which I think is a good idea.

Must move with the future.

Not persuaded by arguments of environmental damage; the wind farm makes a contribution towards the need for renewable energy.

Because the debate seems mostly about how we can find new ways to feed our need for energy rather than reducing our impact on the environment. Our need to survive means we will continue to make a negative impact. At least renewables will reduce the loss of biodiversity that climate change will lead to!

Well looking to the future energy is everything. As a forward thinking notion we need to invest in new energy solutions. The oil will run out!

Local power. Graceful turbines. Windmills of the future.

Wind farms are great.

We have to pull all possible levers and be prepared to make trade-offs to secure a future for our descendants.

People are more important than butterflies (although I do love butterflies and all other flora and fauna)

We have nuclear power plant being built at Plymton.

The problem is so great, we must all make sacrifices.

Because I don't want global warming to get worse.

Locally produced energy - doesn't have to be on massive scale.

Butterflies and views while lovely, are not big enough arguments to stop us doing our bit to protect the lives of the poorest of the world's people. Saying that wind turbines are only a drop in the ocean, doesn't diminish the effect that " drop" can have. Great change can be brought about by small sacrifices.

Because the NIMBYs will destroy the world if we let them. I think they are rather beautiful.

Better wind station than a nuclear or power station.

No problem with what they look like - better than a fossil fuelled station.

If we don't act now there will be no landscape left in the end. It's a sacrifice worth making. Big changes need to be made now and we need to be adaptive and take the long view.

Because putting turbines anywhere will bring the NIMBY response. I do not find them universally offensive and measures can be taken to protect wildlife etc.

I like a bit of wind. Especially between meals (!)

Because wind turbines are beautiful, and cheap to make. Wik!

Cos it's lush. Good for the environment. They're pretty - who cares about one view - there are loads!

You know it makes sense

Not that ugly, look nice in Cornwall really! And obviously a renewable source - got to be good.

Have to do anything we can.

Stick a yellow spot in the middle and they look like a flower (pretty).

Because although they have their downsides wind turbines are needed if we are going to save the planet.

Because I feel that we should act now before it's too late. However, we should combine renewable energy sources with lessening our current uses to help deal with global warming.

Because I agree that it's better to act than not. I believe we should be using renewable sources to generate all we can and REDUCE.

I'd love to know what it costs in energy to build and maintain a wind turbine, and a solar panel for that matter.

Better to do something than nothing even if it only serves as a reminder of the state we're in and does nothing to change the mind set of ongoing energy use and overpopulation and a society used to getting what it wants regardless of real cost.

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